Comments on: pushy hardsell of aweber a serious blooper! http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/ Online Marketing Tips & Website Promotion Strategies Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:30:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Michael Thompson Jr http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-105 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:54:48 +0000 http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-105 I get a kick out of over sensitive subscribers and their "I'll unsubscribe" rhetoric. Quite honestly that's a subscriber you don't need, and if people have a problem with the "in your face" reality that is sorely needed in the ever over saturated internet marketing arena, they should shut down they're email accounts, and immediatley ask the next person they see for a hug. As far as Aweber goes, it is THE Ferrari of autoresponders. No one knows email deliverability, and has the kind of relationships with ISP's that Aweber does. And what is this now with people complaining that it's too expensive...huh? Even on a monthly subscription it works out to less than $250 a year to house the most important aspect of your online business...email marketing and database management...get a grip people. And for marketers that are now resorting to managing everything in house...good luck! Who needs those headaches? Bottom line, Aweber is the top choice for email marketing and list building solutions bar none! I get a kick out of over sensitive subscribers and their “I’ll unsubscribe” rhetoric. Quite honestly that’s a subscriber you don’t need, and if people have a problem with the “in your face” reality that is sorely needed in the ever over saturated internet marketing arena, they should shut down they’re email accounts, and immediatley ask the next person they see for a hug.

As far as Aweber goes, it is THE Ferrari of autoresponders. No one knows email deliverability, and has the kind of relationships with ISP’s that Aweber does. And what is this now with people complaining that it’s too expensive…huh? Even on a monthly subscription it works out to less than $250 a year to house the most important aspect of your online business…email marketing and database management…get a grip people.

And for marketers that are now resorting to managing everything in house…good luck! Who needs those headaches?

Bottom line, Aweber is the top choice for email marketing and list building solutions bar none!

]]> by: Ronnie http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-95 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:24:06 +0000 http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-95 I like your mails It gives me a good laugh to see everyone getting all hotted up due to a piece of advice. I have been on the net for three years now and i have heard all the mumbo jumbo on this product and that and i still fall for it now and then. I take the advice then check out the facts if the figures or whatever look good then i may give it a go. If the person advising me is that bothered about not working with with me or whatever then they i could not care less its my money hahah if the person is passionate enough about a thing then they would follow up and ask why i have not joined this or that and give some alternatives that may fit well with my budget or whatever my reason for not joining is. However in three years no one has ever done this therfore take the advise and then go on to make an informed choice. In this case jo gave us the benifit of his personal experience (this is something you can not calculate a figure to) its up to us to get the facts on the product or service and see if it fits with our business. Just ignore the hype laugh at the person writing and make the most of the advise given and move on. I like your mails
It gives me a good laugh to see everyone getting all hotted up
due to a piece of advice.
I have been on the net for three years now and i have heard all the mumbo jumbo on this product and that and i still fall for it now and then.

I take the advice then check out the facts if the figures or whatever look good then i may give it a go.

If the person advising me is that bothered about not working with with me or whatever then they i could not care less its my money hahah

if the person is passionate enough about a thing then they would follow up and ask why i have not joined this or that and give some alternatives that may fit well with my budget or whatever my reason for not joining is.

However in three years no one has ever done this therfore take the advise and then go on to make an informed choice.

In this case jo gave us the benifit of his personal experience (this is something you can not calculate a figure to) its up to us to get the facts on
the product or service and see if it fits with our business. Just ignore the hype laugh at the person writing and make the most of the advise given and move on.

]]> by: Sten http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-94 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:56:56 +0000 http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-94 I've been with Aweber for a little more than a year and I'm very happy I stopped using an in-house emailer. Just the fact that I'm not hosting the servers is great, but now I also know about spam complaints, have geopgraphical info easily accesible, and so on and so on and so on. I love my Aweber account. It is worth the recurrent outcome -- as opposed to recurrent income, I mean ;-) I’ve been with Aweber for a little more than a year and I’m very happy I stopped using an in-house emailer. Just the fact that I’m not hosting the servers is great, but now I also know about spam complaints, have geopgraphical info easily accesible, and so on and so on and so on. I love my Aweber account. It is worth the recurrent outcome — as opposed to recurrent income, I mean ;-)

]]> by: Tim Erway http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-92 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:20:18 +0000 http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-92 Hi All, I believe Joe's intent was to help his subscribers avoid a serious mistake. Aweber is the only service with proven, long-term deliverability rates in excess of 90%. This is no easy feat. We use 1shopp now because we chose to sacrifice deliverability for all-in-one integration. If I had to do it over again, we would go with Aweber, hands down. My 2 cents :) Tim Hi All,

I believe Joe’s intent was to help his subscribers avoid a serious mistake. Aweber is the only service with proven, long-term deliverability rates in excess of 90%.

This is no easy feat. We use 1shopp now because we chose to sacrifice deliverability for all-in-one integration. If I had to do it over again, we would go with Aweber, hands down.

My 2 cents :)

Tim

]]> by: Alexander http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-91 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:32:10 +0000 http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-91 I had a sad experience with Aweber. I've subscribed to it in July. And it worked good enough. But when one month passed I had to pay bill for the next month. And this task occures quite difficult to me. When I tryed to pay thru their payment form, my bank declined the payment. When I contacted the bank to find what is the matter, they told me that I must use CVV code. But there was no such requisit on Aweber form! So it is. 2CheckOut has this requisit, ClickBank has it also, and Aweber has not! I wrote a letter to Aweber staff but they didn't want extra headache. It was easier to them simply suspend my account. Their programmers can fix this problem in a day, if they want. But they did not. Maybe Aweber have too many clients now and it can afford to piss their customers off in such cases. So I can say that Aweber support is highly unfriendly and their service is not professional enough. If I know that earlier I'd not subscribe to Aweber. I had a sad experience with Aweber.
I’ve subscribed to it in July. And it worked good enough.
But when one month passed I had to pay bill for the next month. And this task occures quite difficult to me.
When I tryed to pay thru their payment form, my bank declined the payment. When I contacted the bank to find what is the matter, they told me that I must use CVV code. But there was no such requisit on Aweber form!
So it is. 2CheckOut has this requisit, ClickBank has it also, and Aweber has not!
I wrote a letter to Aweber staff but they didn’t want extra headache. It was easier to them simply suspend my account. Their programmers can fix this problem in a day, if they want. But they did not.
Maybe Aweber have too many clients now and it can afford to piss their customers off in such cases. So I can say that Aweber support is highly unfriendly and their service is not professional enough.
If I know that earlier I’d not subscribe to Aweber.

]]> by: Jeff Saint-Clair (CEO) http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-90 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:40:36 +0000 http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-90 We are Uk based, and can honestly say that our own experiences with Aweber on all fronts cannot be faulted. Delivery is all but 100%, unheard off with ANY other Autoresponder, and the "Service" experienced is almost unbelieveable! Being UK based and therefore in a different 'Time Zone' to AWeber, we didn't get the Welcome telephone call mentioned above, but we did receive a Welcome letter via Snail Mail within a few days of joining, something we have never experienced with any other company is all our years on the Net. Add to this first class 'Tech Support' if you ever have a problem, we believe it to be the very best value Autoresponder Service to be found anywhere on the Net. We are Uk based, and can honestly say that our own experiences with Aweber on all fronts cannot be faulted.

Delivery is all but 100%, unheard off with ANY other Autoresponder, and the “Service” experienced is almost unbelieveable!

Being UK based and therefore in a different ‘Time Zone’ to AWeber, we didn’t get the Welcome telephone call mentioned above, but we did receive a Welcome letter via Snail Mail within a few days of joining, something we have never experienced with any other company is all our years on the Net.

Add to this first class ‘Tech Support’ if you ever have a problem, we believe it to be the very best value Autoresponder Service to be found anywhere on the Net.

]]> by: Andrea http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-89 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:24:14 +0000 http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-89 I am using aweber and satisfied for sure... the only problem with the monthly price is that setting up an autoresponder is one of the first steps in getting your online business active, and it could be several long months before you really start to see any activity on your account, or earn much money to pay for it. Yet you still have to pay your monthly $20 regardless of your success. For most people $20 is a drop in the bucket next to what the rewards are. I did my research and despite having a free autoresponder program + a second one with my webhost, decided on PAYING for Aweber for its deliverability. I like honesty. And I am grown up enough to know when I am being sold and when something is being praised for good service. Best of luck Andrea Http://www.chooseadirection.com I am using aweber and satisfied for sure…

the only problem with the monthly price is that setting up an autoresponder is one of the first steps in getting your online business active, and it could be several long months before you really start to see any activity on your account, or earn much money to pay for it. Yet you still have to pay your monthly $20 regardless of your success. For most people $20 is a drop in the bucket next to what the rewards are.

I did my research and despite having a free autoresponder program + a second one with my webhost, decided on PAYING for Aweber for its deliverability.

I like honesty. And I am grown up enough to know when I am being sold and when something is being praised for good service.

Best of luck

Andrea
www.chooseadirection.com

]]> by: Nicole http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-88 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:55:32 +0000 http://musthavemarketing.com/blog/37/pushy-hardsell-of-aweber-a-serious-blooper/#comment-88 Hi, I'm the sender of the original email that started this discussion. Seems like there are as many opinions on this topic as there are marketers, which is great! I hope it did come through clearly that it was the how more than the what that caused my reaction, and that I did express my general appreciation for Joe's work as well as for aweber- by no means was I trying to badmouth their service. It was definitely about aweber that I heard of some problems, 1shoppingcart is a different story altogether. What it boils down to is this: it takes time for all the measures that the service has in place to deal with abusers of the system to take effect and in that time one spammer can affect the deliverability of whole banks of accounts. I believe that if someone is going to take such a strong stand on something, they'd better show the numbers to back it up, something that a few people have brought up here. Over the coming year, I will test various scripts and maybe some hosted services as well, and then publish the results. And no matter what those results may be, I will not try to shove them down my readers' throats as an absolute truth. I'll still be highly interested in hearing about experiences that differ from mine and encouraging everyone to share and discuss them. Like I said in my email to Joe, I think aweber is doing a great job overall, it's the tone in which I was being spoken to that made me feel like I had to speak up about this. And again Joe keep up the good stuff, my disagreement with one particular topic does not cancel out my appreciation for what you've been doing as a whole. Peace, Nicole Hi,

I’m the sender of the original email that started this discussion. Seems like there are as many opinions on this topic as there are marketers, which is great!
I hope it did come through clearly that it was the how more than the what that caused my reaction, and that I did express my general appreciation for Joe’s work as well as for aweber- by no means was I trying to badmouth their service.
It was definitely about aweber that I heard of some problems, 1shoppingcart is a different story altogether. What it boils down to is this: it takes time for all the measures that the service has in place to deal with abusers of the system to take effect and in that time one spammer can affect the deliverability of whole banks of accounts.
I believe that if someone is going to take such a strong stand on something, they’d better show the numbers to back it up, something that a few people have brought up here. Over the coming year, I will test various scripts and maybe some hosted services as well, and then publish the results. And no matter what those results may be, I will not try to shove them down my readers’ throats as an absolute truth. I’ll still be highly interested in hearing about experiences that differ from mine and encouraging everyone to share and discuss them.
Like I said in my email to Joe, I think aweber is doing a great job overall,
it’s the tone in which I was being spoken to that made me feel like I had to speak up about this. And again Joe keep up the good stuff, my disagreement with one particular topic does not cancel out my appreciation for what you’ve been doing as a whole.

Peace,

Nicole

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